Comments on: Google bans site after unsavory cartoon portrayal of Matt Cutts http://www.johnon.com/123/google-ban.html I think there's an opinion on that subject lying around here somewhere.... Tue, 06 Jan 2009 22:28:03 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.0.7 by: johnon.com » Blog Archive » Counter to Google http://www.johnon.com/123/google-ban.html#comment-218 Wed, 13 Sep 2006 17:31:09 +0000 http://www.johnon.com/123/google-ban.html#comment-218 [...] The Google way is the way Google makes money, not the way Google improves the world. That point seems to be lost on a generation of Googlelovers who spit vitriol at those they view as “rule breakers”, and proclaim Google as a great and almost benevolent company (see the comments here). I’m tired of it. But I am more tired of the ignorance that fuels that mis-guided perspective. If Google is extracting billions of dollars in profits from world markets, somebody is paying that bill. It appears to be web publishers, although the jury is still out on that. The Followers seem to believe that value can be created from scratch, or perhaps that there is an infinite pool of money stored somewhere from which these benevolent corporations draw their profits. [...] […] The Google way is the way Google makes money, not the way Google improves the world. That point seems to be lost on a generation of Googlelovers who spit vitriol at those they view as “rule breakers”, and proclaim Google as a great and almost benevolent company (see the comments here). I’m tired of it. But I am more tired of the ignorance that fuels that mis-guided perspective. If Google is extracting billions of dollars in profits from world markets, somebody is paying that bill. It appears to be web publishers, although the jury is still out on that. The Followers seem to believe that value can be created from scratch, or perhaps that there is an infinite pool of money stored somewhere from which these benevolent corporations draw their profits. […]

]]> by: john andrews http://www.johnon.com/123/google-ban.html#comment-217 Wed, 13 Sep 2006 16:40:42 +0000 http://www.johnon.com/123/google-ban.html#comment-217 Hi Mark and Thanks for Writing! Um, those are mighty fine fightin words of yours. In a few small sentences you called his sites "a bunch of scraped content" and implied his intent. Who are you, God? You know other's intent and of course you know all of Paul's domains, too, right? That aside, did you read my words above? Note the *careful* use of language. Factually correct. It's a <em>play on words</em>, Mark. It's a new form of <em>thought leadership</em> where, instead of sitting on a soap box and pretending to be a visionary of my industry, I try and lead the reader towards a slightly more truthful path than the mainstream propaganda. This post works off of a <em>clever twist</em> of the circumstances, which may cause a lazy reader to fall into a <em>belief system trap</em> fueled by his own <em>bias and prejudice</em>. You see, Mark, you appear to have a blind faith in TheGoogle. Your own blog represents a "follow the letter of the Google rules" mentality. You are a believer, and so when you hear a report of the Cruel Mistress Google shafting <em>someone just like you</em>, you go into <b>denial</b>. It can't be. She wouldn't <em>do</em> that. I'm afraid the Kool Aide has taken it's toll Mark. The Truth is she <b>will</b> do that. She makes a living doing that. It may be that Paul needs to clean up his sites. I don't know, because I don't know his URLs. But I also have no idea why Google called his clicks fraudulent. Google won't say. And I also don't know why you think scraped content is crap and yet you like TheGoogle. TheGoogle is a conglomeration of scraped content, plastered with ads. The big problem here is not Paul, Mark. The problem is the unilateral power wielded by players like Google, with little transparency and bolstered by countless unquestioning supporters thankful for the GoogleCrumbs they get through AdSense. People who love Google but hate people who "fill up the web with crap while making money off it". It's sponsored crap, Mark. Don't hate the player, ok? Hi Mark and Thanks for Writing!

Um, those are mighty fine fightin words of yours. In a few small sentences you called his sites “a bunch of scraped content” and implied his intent. Who are you, God? You know other’s intent and of course you know all of Paul’s domains, too, right?

That aside, did you read my words above? Note the *careful* use of language. Factually correct. It’s a play on words, Mark. It’s a new form of thought leadership where, instead of sitting on a soap box and pretending to be a visionary of my industry, I try and lead the reader towards a slightly more truthful path than the mainstream propaganda. This post works off of a clever twist of the circumstances, which may cause a lazy reader to fall into a belief system trap fueled by his own bias and prejudice.

You see, Mark, you appear to have a blind faith in TheGoogle. Your own blog represents a “follow the letter of the Google rules” mentality. You are a believer, and so when you hear a report of the Cruel Mistress Google shafting someone just like you, you go into denial. It can’t be. She wouldn’t do that. I’m afraid the Kool Aide has taken it’s toll Mark. The Truth is she will do that. She makes a living doing that.

It may be that Paul needs to clean up his sites. I don’t know, because I don’t know his URLs. But I also have no idea why Google called his clicks fraudulent. Google won’t say. And I also don’t know why you think scraped content is crap and yet you like TheGoogle. TheGoogle is a conglomeration of scraped content, plastered with ads.

The big problem here is not Paul, Mark. The problem is the unilateral power wielded by players like Google, with little transparency and bolstered by countless unquestioning supporters thankful for the GoogleCrumbs they get through AdSense. People who love Google but hate people who “fill up the web with crap while making money off it”. It’s sponsored crap, Mark. Don’t hate the player, ok?

]]> by: Mark http://www.johnon.com/123/google-ban.html#comment-216 Wed, 13 Sep 2006 10:07:26 +0000 http://www.johnon.com/123/google-ban.html#comment-216 Did you actually read what Paul wrote? He had a bunch of scraped content and was filling the net with crap while making money off it. Fare more likely his link bait was found by a Googler which rumbled his multiple violations of their Terms of Service. I think you'll find his banning has nothing to do with the cartoon.. Also Adsense publishers are banned by human review, it has nothing to do with the "Google Algorithm". Did you actually read what Paul wrote? He had a bunch of scraped content and was filling the net with crap while making money off it. Fare more likely his link bait was found by a Googler which rumbled his multiple violations of their Terms of Service. I think you’ll find his banning has nothing to do with the cartoon.. Also Adsense publishers are banned by human review, it has nothing to do with the “Google Algorithm”.

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