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	<title>Comments on: Google TrustRank drops another point</title>
	<link>http://www.johnon.com/189/google-trustrank.html</link>
	<description>I think there's an opinion on that subject lying around here somewhere....</description>
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		<title>by: Payday Loan Blog - Best SEO / Affiliate Marketing Posts 12/04 -12/10</title>
		<link>http://www.johnon.com/189/google-trustrank.html#comment-1794</link>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 Dec 2006 16:56:47 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>[...] 11 December 2006  Best SEO / Affiliate Marketing Posts 12/04 -12/10  In this week's round-up of what we felt were the best blog posts / forum threads on SEO, affiliatemarketing, and anything else that might be relevant for marketing payday loans, we found a lot of buzz associated with Adwords (and much of it is negative)... Google Phone Spamming With Auto DialersGoogle Undermining Paypal in Their War on Affiliates Google TrustRank drops another pointHow Google Could Commoditize (Nearly) Everything Enjoy!JoeSinkwitz    12/11/2006 09:56:36 (US Mountain Standard Time, UTC-07:00)&#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; Affiliate Marketing&#160;&#124;&#160;SEO &#160;&#124;&#160; [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[&#8230;] 11 December 2006  Best SEO / Affiliate Marketing Posts 12/04 -12/10  In this week&#8217;s round-up of what we felt were the best blog posts / forum threads on SEO, affiliatemarketing, and anything else that might be relevant for marketing payday loans, we found a lot of buzz associated with Adwords (and much of it is negative)&#8230; Google Phone Spamming With Auto DialersGoogle Undermining Paypal in Their War on Affiliates Google TrustRank drops another pointHow Google Could Commoditize (Nearly) Everything Enjoy!JoeSinkwitz    12/11/2006 09:56:36 (US Mountain Standard Time, UTC-07:00)&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; Affiliate Marketing&nbsp;|&nbsp;SEO &nbsp;|&nbsp; [&#8230;]
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		<title>by: IncrediBILL</title>
		<link>http://www.johnon.com/189/google-trustrank.html#comment-1699</link>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 Dec 2006 18:53:52 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>John, you seem to forget that even when Google boots them Yahoo and MSN still embrace those sites. I can tell you for certain that Google dumped a bunch of sites and sources of junk that Yahoo is still indexing at an ever increasing rapid pace. The major difference was Google responded to the spam reports and Yahoo didn't.

Kind of hard to blame Google for not spotting sites that don't want to be spotted. The problem is that the smarter junk sites and domain parks are working harder at eliminating and randomizing the fingerprints that make them easily detectable. You yourself once said "stealth is as stealth does" or something similar that sounded like a phrase from a fortune cookie.

The only thing I won't let Google off the hook for is that they know when AdSense shows up on more than a handful of sites for a single account and it's a clear signal of potential quality problems and they let it persist.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>John, you seem to forget that even when Google boots them Yahoo and MSN still embrace those sites. I can tell you for certain that Google dumped a bunch of sites and sources of junk that Yahoo is still indexing at an ever increasing rapid pace. The major difference was Google responded to the spam reports and Yahoo didn&#8217;t.</p>
<p>Kind of hard to blame Google for not spotting sites that don&#8217;t want to be spotted. The problem is that the smarter junk sites and domain parks are working harder at eliminating and randomizing the fingerprints that make them easily detectable. You yourself once said &#8220;stealth is as stealth does&#8221; or something similar that sounded like a phrase from a fortune cookie.</p>
<p>The only thing I won&#8217;t let Google off the hook for is that they know when AdSense shows up on more than a handful of sites for a single account and it&#8217;s a clear signal of potential quality problems and they let it persist.
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		<title>by: john andrews</title>
		<link>http://www.johnon.com/189/google-trustrank.html#comment-1692</link>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 Dec 2006 08:25:40 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>Hey Bill, you seem to let Google off the hook yet plain as day Google is making a decent amount of money from this. It's not under the radar...there's a check flowing from Google to the owners of that site, and Google counts their pages as "available inventory" when it pitches potential advertisers.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey Bill, you seem to let Google off the hook yet plain as day Google is making a decent amount of money from this. It&#8217;s not under the radar&#8230;there&#8217;s a check flowing from Google to the owners of that site, and Google counts their pages as &#8220;available inventory&#8221; when it pitches potential advertisers.
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		<title>by: TrustRank</title>
		<link>http://www.johnon.com/189/google-trustrank.html#comment-1685</link>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 Dec 2006 05:12:09 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>There are some things I don't like about it and some things I do like about it. I really get annoyed when these sites pop up, and nothing is done about it. The average Joe is out there working hard at getting a decent rank but is finding it hard.

There is a community I am apart of that will be launching in the new year. The website is http://www.trustrank.org

Go sign up and help build a community about the new Trust Rank  ( please no google workers)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There are some things I don&#8217;t like about it and some things I do like about it. I really get annoyed when these sites pop up, and nothing is done about it. The average Joe is out there working hard at getting a decent rank but is finding it hard.</p>
<p>There is a community I am apart of that will be launching in the new year. The website is <a href="http://www.trustrank.org" >http://www.trustrank.org</a></p>
<p>Go sign up and help build a community about the new Trust Rank  ( please no google workers)
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		<title>by: IncrediBILL</title>
		<link>http://www.johnon.com/189/google-trustrank.html#comment-1620</link>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 Dec 2006 17:43:00 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.johnon.com/189/google-trustrank.html#comment-1620</guid>
					<description>Whoa, looks like a blog about bots and scrapers, where have we heard this before?

I think you're misplacing the blame on Google that should be attributed to the bandit stealing pages and scamming the search engine. This instance isn't as simple as your traditional duplicate content penalty as they would have to be able to semantically interpret and compare the content for it's intent, which is a bit more than we should expect of Google and it's a slippery slope that could penalize all sorts of similar pages as duplicate content just because they are about the same topic.

I would just report the site to Google as scraper spam, which I have reported many like you found, and then lose trust if they don't deal with it appropriately.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Whoa, looks like a blog about bots and scrapers, where have we heard this before?</p>
<p>I think you&#8217;re misplacing the blame on Google that should be attributed to the bandit stealing pages and scamming the search engine. This instance isn&#8217;t as simple as your traditional duplicate content penalty as they would have to be able to semantically interpret and compare the content for it&#8217;s intent, which is a bit more than we should expect of Google and it&#8217;s a slippery slope that could penalize all sorts of similar pages as duplicate content just because they are about the same topic.</p>
<p>I would just report the site to Google as scraper spam, which I have reported many like you found, and then lose trust if they don&#8217;t deal with it appropriately.
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