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	<title>Comments on: Sitemaps is for Sissies</title>
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	<description>I think there's an opinion on that subject lying around here somewhere....</description>
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		<title>by: your_store</title>
		<link>http://www.johnon.com/195/sitemap-sissies.html#comment-1857</link>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Dec 2006 14:46:07 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>"Every bit you provide is another bit that will be used outside of your view."

Thank you for condensing my mantra into a single sentence. I still don't understand why any SEO would volunteer information to Google or any other SE. The SEs already know too much, why give them a helping hand?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Every bit you provide is another bit that will be used outside of your view.&#8221;</p>
<p>Thank you for condensing my mantra into a single sentence. I still don&#8217;t understand why any SEO would volunteer information to Google or any other SE. The SEs already know too much, why give them a helping hand?
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		<title>by: SEO Buzz Box</title>
		<link>http://www.johnon.com/195/sitemap-sissies.html#comment-1855</link>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Dec 2006 14:26:07 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>Vanessa also confirmed that sitemaps can be used to ping Google of changes.

Here is how I use it:

I make a new post to blog, I ping sitemaps, Three days later I change the content a bit in the post, I zip off a new sitemap notifying Google of changes, trust is granted and the page is recrawled. I find sitemaps to be useful in developing new site trust in Google, if you remove the site from your google webmaster console and the barcode from root you logically should be fine.

But you are correct sir, one never really knows, maybe we could ping Vanessa and get her in here to answer?

&lt;strong&gt;John Andrews replies:&lt;/strong&gt; &lt;em&gt;Yes, that ping feature is convenient. As for the association/dissociation thing, I wasn't clear enough. Let me try to clarify:&lt;/em&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;We now know that Google &lt;em&gt;&lt;strong&gt;imparts intent&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/em&gt;. Google spam team members make judgements about your site, based on available evidence, and outside of your view. &lt;a href="http://www.mattcutts.org/blog/"&gt;Matt Cutts&lt;/a&gt; demonstrated this in Vegas when he questioned a site owner on his un-associated, unused domains. The message was later clarified: Google looks to see if the web master has &lt;em&gt;spammy tendencies&lt;/em&gt;. That marks a new era for Google, and perches them on a very slippery slope.

Given that such judgements are executed in private by Google, with no transparency and no opportunity for rebuttal, the less data you provide to Google the better. If you associate a name/email with a site, will that ever be dissociated? Sure you can remove it, but will it be considered removed by Google's Judge &#038; Jury? I doubt it. Because if I were Google, I would always want to keep in mind that John Andrews once 'owned' a particular web site.  Maybe he's no longer involved, but maybe he is, or maybe the fact that he once was involved reflects on the nature of the web site owner... highly competitive, highly-traind by some experience under John Andrews guidance, or at least willing to hire very &lt;a title="Competitive SEO" href="http://www.seo-fun.com"&gt;competitive SEO consultants&lt;/a&gt; to achieve top rankings. All good info, and all info that I believe needs to be hidden from Google.&lt;/blockquote&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Vanessa also confirmed that sitemaps can be used to ping Google of changes.</p>
<p>Here is how I use it:</p>
<p>I make a new post to blog, I ping sitemaps, Three days later I change the content a bit in the post, I zip off a new sitemap notifying Google of changes, trust is granted and the page is recrawled. I find sitemaps to be useful in developing new site trust in Google, if you remove the site from your google webmaster console and the barcode from root you logically should be fine.</p>
<p>But you are correct sir, one never really knows, maybe we could ping Vanessa and get her in here to answer?</p>
<p><strong>John Andrews replies:</strong> <em>Yes, that ping feature is convenient. As for the association/dissociation thing, I wasn&#8217;t clear enough. Let me try to clarify:</em></p>
<blockquote><p>We now know that Google <em><strong>imparts intent</strong></em>. Google spam team members make judgements about your site, based on available evidence, and outside of your view. <a href="http://www.mattcutts.org/blog/">Matt Cutts</a> demonstrated this in Vegas when he questioned a site owner on his un-associated, unused domains. The message was later clarified: Google looks to see if the web master has <em>spammy tendencies</em>. That marks a new era for Google, and perches them on a very slippery slope.</p>
<p>Given that such judgements are executed in private by Google, with no transparency and no opportunity for rebuttal, the less data you provide to Google the better. If you associate a name/email with a site, will that ever be dissociated? Sure you can remove it, but will it be considered removed by Google&#8217;s Judge &#038; Jury? I doubt it. Because if I were Google, I would always want to keep in mind that John Andrews once &#8216;owned&#8217; a particular web site.  Maybe he&#8217;s no longer involved, but maybe he is, or maybe the fact that he once was involved reflects on the nature of the web site owner&#8230; highly competitive, highly-traind by some experience under John Andrews guidance, or at least willing to hire very <a title="Competitive SEO" href="http://www.seo-fun.com">competitive SEO consultants</a> to achieve top rankings. All good info, and all info that I believe needs to be hidden from Google.</p></blockquote>
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		<title>by: Lea de Groot</title>
		<link>http://www.johnon.com/195/sitemap-sissies.html#comment-1851</link>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Dec 2006 11:29:12 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>Its interesting - I would like to think that if the site verification token is removed from the site that you would then not be associated with the site anymore.
It makes sense - not everyone is a one-man-band who runs a site forever or until they get sick of it.
Some of us sell sites.
Some of us work on sites for employers
Some of us work on sites for clients.

In all these cases there will come a time where you are no longer affiliate with the site.
Hopefully Google has taken this into account - but how can we know? :(</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Its interesting - I would like to think that if the site verification token is removed from the site that you would then not be associated with the site anymore.<br />
It makes sense - not everyone is a one-man-band who runs a site forever or until they get sick of it.<br />
Some of us sell sites.<br />
Some of us work on sites for employers<br />
Some of us work on sites for clients.</p>
<p>In all these cases there will come a time where you are no longer affiliate with the site.<br />
Hopefully Google has taken this into account - but how can we know? :(
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