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	<title>Comments on: A &#8220;Market for Lemons&#8221;, a Nobel Prize, and Snake Oil SEO</title>
	<link>http://www.johnon.com/293/seo-consulting-2.html</link>
	<description>I think there's an opinion on that subject lying around here somewhere....</description>
	<pubDate>Fri, 25 Jul 2008 15:50:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>by: Dave Store</title>
		<link>http://www.johnon.com/293/seo-consulting-2.html#comment-127967</link>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Jul 2008 17:54:34 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>There seems to me to be a lot of SEO work that non-technical people can do. It seems insane for a company who has employees who maybe aren't employed to the full not to utilize them for an hour a day trying to find links and writing content.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There seems to me to be a lot of SEO work that non-technical people can do. It seems insane for a company who has employees who maybe aren&#8217;t employed to the full not to utilize them for an hour a day trying to find links and writing content.
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		<title>by: Interview with Aaron Wall of SEOBook.com &#187; SEO Archive</title>
		<link>http://www.johnon.com/293/seo-consulting-2.html#comment-111302</link>
		<pubDate>Sun, 06 Apr 2008 18:03:46 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.johnon.com/293/seo-consulting-2.html#comment-111302</guid>
					<description>[...] the field of SEO gets tarnished as a whole it creates a market for lemons effect. And virtually nobody seems to [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[&#8230;] the field of SEO gets tarnished as a whole it creates a market for lemons effect. And virtually nobody seems to [&#8230;]
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		<title>by: test &#187; SEO Archive</title>
		<link>http://www.johnon.com/293/seo-consulting-2.html#comment-111301</link>
		<pubDate>Sun, 06 Apr 2008 17:57:36 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>[...] the field of SEO gets tarnished as a whole it creates a market for lemons effect. And virtually nobody seems to [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[&#8230;] the field of SEO gets tarnished as a whole it creates a market for lemons effect. And virtually nobody seems to [&#8230;]
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		<title>by: Dan Durick</title>
		<link>http://www.johnon.com/293/seo-consulting-2.html#comment-110805</link>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Apr 2008 13:22:42 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>John, you're right on here. In dealing with clients I'm finding a trend in growing interest in consulting rather than hiring SEO services outright. I primarily work with car dealers, and the savvier, larger, auto groups are tackling more in-house. If they already have a strong marketing team, this just makes sense, and I see the "secret information" as something that be overcome with some consultations (I wouldn't hold back information from a client, and I don't think most consultants would).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>John, you&#8217;re right on here. In dealing with clients I&#8217;m finding a trend in growing interest in consulting rather than hiring SEO services outright. I primarily work with car dealers, and the savvier, larger, auto groups are tackling more in-house. If they already have a strong marketing team, this just makes sense, and I see the &#8220;secret information&#8221; as something that be overcome with some consultations (I wouldn&#8217;t hold back information from a client, and I don&#8217;t think most consultants would).
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		<title>by: Douglas</title>
		<link>http://www.johnon.com/293/seo-consulting-2.html#comment-108581</link>
		<pubDate>Mon, 31 Mar 2008 21:47:04 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>if it hasn't happened already, SEO will be offered as a major at some major university within 2 years.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>if it hasn&#8217;t happened already, SEO will be offered as a major at some major university within 2 years.
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		<title>by: &#187; Google Barters Backlinks to Show The Way - John Andrews - johnon.com</title>
		<link>http://www.johnon.com/293/seo-consulting-2.html#comment-107675</link>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Mar 2008 17:47:20 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.johnon.com/293/seo-consulting-2.html#comment-107675</guid>
					<description>[...] search optimization community, by investing energy into Google&#8217;s arguments, is decimating the public market for SEO, increasing the profits of the underground and so-called Black Hat practitioners and giving Google [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[&#8230;] search optimization community, by investing energy into Google&#8217;s arguments, is decimating the public market for SEO, increasing the profits of the underground and so-called Black Hat practitioners and giving Google [&#8230;]
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		<title>by: The Future of Business Process Outsourcing &#8212; SEO Zeitgeist</title>
		<link>http://www.johnon.com/293/seo-consulting-2.html#comment-104684</link>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Mar 2008 00:55:01 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.johnon.com/293/seo-consulting-2.html#comment-104684</guid>
					<description>[...] piece of the market creates a market for lemons effect, be it SEO, web design, programming, eBay listings, [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[&#8230;] piece of the market creates a market for lemons effect, be it SEO, web design, programming, eBay listings, [&#8230;]
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		<title>by: Pony</title>
		<link>http://www.johnon.com/293/seo-consulting-2.html#comment-77993</link>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Jan 2008 10:37:43 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.johnon.com/293/seo-consulting-2.html#comment-77993</guid>
					<description>In my experience, the highend SEO techniques eventually filter down to the entry level SEOs when they are no longer pulling in the kind of SERP power that they used to. 

In South Africa there are a number of low level SEO companies that are using questionable methods including using client sites to link back to the mothership, embed third party google analtics code to inflate clicks. For about $30 you can get someone to SEO your site, i.e. change the description, titles and metatags on a couple of pages, and add a link back to the mothership, basically the mothership gets a free dofollow link, and they get paid for it. These are the same people still using hidden links.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In my experience, the highend SEO techniques eventually filter down to the entry level SEOs when they are no longer pulling in the kind of SERP power that they used to. </p>
<p>In South Africa there are a number of low level SEO companies that are using questionable methods including using client sites to link back to the mothership, embed third party google analtics code to inflate clicks. For about $30 you can get someone to SEO your site, i.e. change the description, titles and metatags on a couple of pages, and add a link back to the mothership, basically the mothership gets a free dofollow link, and they get paid for it. These are the same people still using hidden links.
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		<title>by: Peter T Davis &#187; Blog Archive &#187; The SEO Lemon</title>
		<link>http://www.johnon.com/293/seo-consulting-2.html#comment-72979</link>
		<pubDate>Sun, 16 Dec 2007 06:38:46 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.johnon.com/293/seo-consulting-2.html#comment-72979</guid>
					<description>[...] I don’t often blog just to say read what someone else has posted, but occasionally I see something that’s so thought provoking that it’s worth remembering the login to Wordpress and crank out a few sentences. John Andrews post about A “Market for Lemons”, a Nobel Prize, and Snake Oil SEO is one of those occasions. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[&#8230;] I don’t often blog just to say read what someone else has posted, but occasionally I see something that’s so thought provoking that it’s worth remembering the login to Wordpress and crank out a few sentences. John Andrews post about A “Market for Lemons”, a Nobel Prize, and Snake Oil SEO is one of those occasions. [&#8230;]
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		<title>by: Matt L</title>
		<link>http://www.johnon.com/293/seo-consulting-2.html#comment-72468</link>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Dec 2007 14:48:52 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.johnon.com/293/seo-consulting-2.html#comment-72468</guid>
					<description>Great post - only recommendation I'd make is to work on that formatting a bit so more readers get through to the bottom :)

lines currently about 115ish chars, no longer than 65 reads the best
chop up those paragraphs a bit more - maybe no longer than 5 lines
some subheadings


anyhoo - thanks for sharing</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great post - only recommendation I&#8217;d make is to work on that formatting a bit so more readers get through to the bottom :)</p>
<p>lines currently about 115ish chars, no longer than 65 reads the best<br />
chop up those paragraphs a bit more - maybe no longer than 5 lines<br />
some subheadings</p>
<p>anyhoo - thanks for sharing
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