Comments on: The Value of Domain Name Circulation http://www.johnon.com/372/domain-name-transfers.html I think there's an opinion on that subject lying around here somewhere.... Fri, 24 May 2013 10:46:27 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.0.7 by: Jamie http://www.johnon.com/372/domain-name-transfers.html#comment-40978 Wed, 01 Aug 2007 05:35:10 +0000 http://www.johnon.com/372/domain-name-transfers.html#comment-40978 Can you clarify what you mean by a domain being "reserved and not used"? By this do you mean parked domains with ads served on them? <em><strong>John Andrews replies:</strong></em> Not really. Reserved but not used, as in does not resolve, or resolves to a virtually empty  page, and old, no longer meaningful page, or something like that. I know there's a quality judgment involved with that, and I'm not trying to set a standard for it.  Butr it is pretty obvious when a domain name is not being "used". For example, if there are ads on it, I consider it "being used". If it has supportive back links, it is being used. Parked pages are obviously being used, whether or not you agree with the business model. Can you clarify what you mean by a domain being “reserved and not used”? By this do you mean parked domains with ads served on them?

John Andrews replies: Not really. Reserved but not used, as in does not resolve, or resolves to a virtually empty  page, and old, no longer meaningful page, or something like that. I know there’s a quality judgment involved with that, and I’m not trying to set a standard for it.  Butr it is pretty obvious when a domain name is not being “used”. For example, if there are ads on it, I consider it “being used”. If it has supportive back links, it is being used. Parked pages are obviously being used, whether or not you agree with the business model.

]]> by: Ben Wilks http://www.johnon.com/372/domain-name-transfers.html#comment-40973 Wed, 01 Aug 2007 05:25:33 +0000 http://www.johnon.com/372/domain-name-transfers.html#comment-40973 I agree it would be more healthy, but is the problem really worse now then before? Domain distrubution networks such as DDN will slowly make a big difference as the degree of seperation between buyer and seller is bridged. I cannot see domains being released, but a more accessable and open aftermarket with better tools for seo's, domainers and website owners to build their businesses off. More synergy outside current distrubution networks. Similar to supermarkets and food ordering once your fridge starts emailing a local distributer for automated refills. Efficiency is key. Large domainers should band together and fix the space as a collaboration IMHO. Someone needs to put the ego aside and step-up. The sooner they improve the direct navigation space the better the value of domains, useage and public relations. If just the top 10 domainers got onboard it would have a huge impact. Or even offer a range of services (ppc, subdomains, via CMS) to get third-party content on their domains for a fee. Win, win. I have faith either way. I think hedging yourself between domains and seo is a good spot to be in so long as your diversified (also in the real world somehow) and plant yourself in the middle of the road. Bottomline John, I think things are improving, even though we have along ways to go. Time will tell, but the sooner aftermarket is gone the sooner these problems will solve. For some reason I think seo and domains are just getting started. The web tools of tomorrow will dwarf any shortcomings at present. We have come a long way, but it's just beginning for collaboration and markets outside of search engines and mainstream media. But the major domainers must get this rolling and with the help of the seo community. In the future the lines between domainer and seo will blur quite a bit. Just looking at seo and domaining, they are so complimentary, yet so far from working together or totally understanding the implications of each others skill sets and assets. The ego and misinformation shrouds both in secrecy. As this divide is broken, expect some massive advancements in both search and direct navigation. What you reckon John, am I mad? can you see what I am getting at here? <em><strong>John Andrews replies:</strong></em>  I'm not sure yet, Ben, which is why I will be at the Domainer's Conference in Seattle this month. I see the potential (SEO & Domainers). I see more of the differences between the SEO perspective and the domainer's perspective every time I read domainer blogs and such. There aren't many talkative domainers compared to SEOs... heh heh. That should change in the future, but I'm not sure it will come soon. Like SEO, there's plenty to be lost with loose lips. I don't know any BigDomainers yet personally, and I  would like to change that so I can learn more about the <strong><em>attitude</em></strong> behind the business position. You can't argue with the idea that every SEO is at least a small time domainer, and that every domainer could monetize more via SEO. That's enough common ground for the cross-over to grow much larger than it is now. I agree it would be more healthy, but is the problem really worse now then before? Domain distrubution networks such as DDN will slowly make a big difference as the degree of seperation between buyer and seller is bridged. I cannot see domains being released, but a more accessable and open aftermarket with better tools for seo’s, domainers and website owners to build their businesses off. More synergy outside current distrubution networks. Similar to supermarkets and food ordering once your fridge starts emailing a local distributer for automated refills. Efficiency is key.

Large domainers should band together and fix the space as a collaboration IMHO. Someone needs to put the ego aside and step-up. The sooner they improve the direct navigation space the better the value of domains, useage and public relations.

If just the top 10 domainers got onboard it would have a huge impact. Or even offer a range of services (ppc, subdomains, via CMS) to get third-party content on their domains for a fee. Win, win.

I have faith either way. I think hedging yourself between domains and seo is a good spot to be in so long as your diversified (also in the real world somehow) and plant yourself in the middle of the road.

Bottomline John, I think things are improving, even though we have along ways to go. Time will tell, but the sooner aftermarket is gone the sooner these problems will solve.

For some reason I think seo and domains are just getting started. The web tools of tomorrow will dwarf any shortcomings at present. We have come a long way, but it’s just beginning for collaboration and markets outside of search engines and mainstream media. But the major domainers must get this rolling and with the help of the seo community. In the future the lines between domainer and seo will blur quite a bit.

Just looking at seo and domaining, they are so complimentary, yet so far from working together or totally understanding the implications of each others skill sets and assets. The ego and misinformation shrouds both in secrecy. As this divide is broken, expect some massive advancements in both search and direct navigation.

What you reckon John, am I mad? can you see what I am getting at here?

John Andrews replies:  I’m not sure yet, Ben, which is why I will be at the Domainer’s Conference in Seattle this month. I see the potential (SEO & Domainers). I see more of the differences between the SEO perspective and the domainer’s perspective every time I read domainer blogs and such. There aren’t many talkative domainers compared to SEOs… heh heh. That should change in the future, but I’m not sure it will come soon. Like SEO, there’s plenty to be lost with loose lips. I don’t know any BigDomainers yet personally, and I  would like to change that so I can learn more about the attitude behind the business position. You can’t argue with the idea that every SEO is at least a small time domainer, and that every domainer could monetize more via SEO. That’s enough common ground for the cross-over to grow much larger than it is now.

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