Comments on: Still Domaining, even in 2008. http://www.johnon.com/523/available-domains.html I think there's an opinion on that subject lying around here somewhere.... Fri, 05 Dec 2008 13:18:45 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.0.7 by: algoholic http://www.johnon.com/523/available-domains.html#comment-105037 Tue, 18 Mar 2008 07:58:42 +0000 http://www.johnon.com/523/available-domains.html#comment-105037 @John: LOL, More Seriously - Increasing exposure to backgammon works for me and is recommended, the only difference is I don't really play the game, just the SERPs ;) @John: LOL, More Seriously - Increasing exposure to backgammon works for me and is recommended, the only difference is I don’t really play the game, just the SERPs ;)

]]> by: algoholic http://www.johnon.com/523/available-domains.html#comment-104910 Mon, 17 Mar 2008 20:51:18 +0000 http://www.johnon.com/523/available-domains.html#comment-104910 So now the fact that you're a backgammon lover will be common knowledge? :) <strong>@Algo:</strong><em> hah hah should I put a blog up there to log the evolution of my Backgammon skills as I <a title="Learning to play backgammon online" href="http://www.backgammonlovers.com">learn to play backgammon</a>?  Should I post my thoughts as I play backgammon online, since I have such strong opinions about the online backgammon user interfaces and how they do or don't support new players just learning the game? Should I sign up for the <a href="http://www.play65partners.com/default.html">Play65 backgammon affiliate program</a>, to monetize the domain? And then what will my "domain" it be worth in a year or so? I see Pandia (the search marketing company) has done just that with <a href="http://www.pandia.com/sew/362-affiliate.html">this page</a>... re-making the case for affiliate marketing and SEO in the context of playing backgammon online. I wonder how much revenue that page drives? of course I am being playful... affiliate marketing is a very solid monetization scheme for many markets.  </em> <em>More seriously, I will let you know if I become a backgammon lover or just a casual player, after I have more experience playing backgammon online (I just started). Since Washington State made it a felony to play poker online, I am torn between playing it at the local pub or  increasing my exposure to backgammon. </em> So now the fact that you’re a backgammon lover will be common knowledge? :)

@Algo: hah hah should I put a blog up there to log the evolution of my Backgammon skills as I learn to play backgammon?  Should I post my thoughts as I play backgammon online, since I have such strong opinions about the online backgammon user interfaces and how they do or don’t support new players just learning the game? Should I sign up for the Play65 backgammon affiliate program, to monetize the domain? And then what will my “domain” it be worth in a year or so? I see Pandia (the search marketing company) has done just that with this page… re-making the case for affiliate marketing and SEO in the context of playing backgammon online. I wonder how much revenue that page drives? of course I am being playful… affiliate marketing is a very solid monetization scheme for many markets. 

More seriously, I will let you know if I become a backgammon lover or just a casual player, after I have more experience playing backgammon online (I just started). Since Washington State made it a felony to play poker online, I am torn between playing it at the local pub or  increasing my exposure to backgammon.

]]> by: Paul Bliss http://www.johnon.com/523/available-domains.html#comment-104861 Mon, 17 Mar 2008 17:08:19 +0000 http://www.johnon.com/523/available-domains.html#comment-104861 I agree 100% with the post - everyday great domain names (IMO) are still out there - while there are no generic names left, catalog and category phrases still exist and are only going to climb in value. I say let "them" cry about the lack of domain names or how it's too late to get in. Just means more money for the rest of us. <strong>@Paul:</strong> <em>But are you sure your choices are not just "<strong>stinkers</strong>"?  This seems to be the new face of domaining.... understanding the role a domain name plays in an industry or market, and registering and marketing the domain to sell it, based on it's inherent value. Last I looked, that added value will increase both the price of worthy domains and the demand for them. All good for commerce. Kudos to Stephen Webb of IamDomainNames.com as he has been doing this in his market since he got involved in domaining. </em> I agree 100% with the post - everyday great domain names (IMO) are still out there - while there are no generic names left, catalog and category phrases still exist and are only going to climb in value. I say let “them” cry about the lack of domain names or how it’s too late to get in. Just means more money for the rest of us.

@Paul: But are you sure your choices are not just “stinkers“?  This seems to be the new face of domaining…. understanding the role a domain name plays in an industry or market, and registering and marketing the domain to sell it, based on it’s inherent value. Last I looked, that added value will increase both the price of worthy domains and the demand for them. All good for commerce. Kudos to Stephen Webb of IamDomainNames.com as he has been doing this in his market since he got involved in domaining.

]]> by: Peter Davis http://www.johnon.com/523/available-domains.html#comment-104822 Mon, 17 Mar 2008 13:36:26 +0000 http://www.johnon.com/523/available-domains.html#comment-104822 Usually, when I hear someone saying there are still good domains to be registered I find someone with a portfolio full of stinkers. I don't know the details on your BackgammonLovers.com deal, but there's a huge difference between reselling domains for good money (in the thousands of dollars) or the usual $25 or so that I see very often. Even if it only took a few minutes to think up those names, by the time you have them registered, find a buyer, do the transaction, push the domain, etc, you've got at least a good hour into it. Now, for a lot of people earning ten or twenty bucks for an hours work might be very good, especially if you're in a third world country. And, if you can repeat that a dozen times a day, you might make a good living. Personally, I'd rather have a handful of sales each year and make five figures on average per sale. Same amount of work for those bigger dollar transactions. <strong>@Peter:</strong>  Are you saying that in your opinion Backgammonlovers.com is worth $25, or perhaps sub $100? I value your opinion, so I'd like to qualify that. It really is all about that valuation, isn't it? If a non-generic domain name has a $1,000 value or $2500 value of a $100 value. As a born-and-bred New Yorker now living around Seattle I am very very far from a third world citizen's view of the value of a dollar, and of my associates I tend to land on the high side of the economic value scales... I value quality and pay for it more often than not. Usually, when I hear someone saying there are still good domains to be registered I find someone with a portfolio full of stinkers. I don’t know the details on your BackgammonLovers.com deal, but there’s a huge difference between reselling domains for good money (in the thousands of dollars) or the usual $25 or so that I see very often. Even if it only took a few minutes to think up those names, by the time you have them registered, find a buyer, do the transaction, push the domain, etc, you’ve got at least a good hour into it. Now, for a lot of people earning ten or twenty bucks for an hours work might be very good, especially if you’re in a third world country. And, if you can repeat that a dozen times a day, you might make a good living. Personally, I’d rather have a handful of sales each year and make five figures on average per sale. Same amount of work for those bigger dollar transactions.

@Peter:  Are you saying that in your opinion Backgammonlovers.com is worth $25, or perhaps sub $100? I value your opinion, so I’d like to qualify that. It really is all about that valuation, isn’t it? If a non-generic domain name has a $1,000 value or $2500 value of a $100 value. As a born-and-bred New Yorker now living around Seattle I am very very far from a third world citizen’s view of the value of a dollar, and of my associates I tend to land on the high side of the economic value scales… I value quality and pay for it more often than not.

]]> by: JaeWeb http://www.johnon.com/523/available-domains.html#comment-104796 Mon, 17 Mar 2008 11:13:57 +0000 http://www.johnon.com/523/available-domains.html#comment-104796 I still have this weird feeling that something big technologically is going to happen which is going to render domain names moot and completely gut the domain market. i wish i knew what it was, so that i could invent it...... <strong>@jaeweb:</strong> <em>Not sure I agree with you, as I tend to think it is too easy to put off the hard work of today by simply saying it's likely to be all changed come tomorrow. However, I do believe in the power of politics. I have always assumed that local politics will eventually bend the web to the breaking point. The thinkers in the domain world should probably look very closely at the .ASIA endeavor. A private group creating a top level domain branded globally like that, with all registrations thrown to competitive auction, certainly changes the face of domain name opportunity on the Internet. Ownership of natural resources have long suffered local political efforts like nationalization. Why not TLDs? Who is stopping a government like China (or even the US, under the guise of National Security/Homeland Security or "resolve") from mandating a TLD much like they mandate taxes or other corporate governance? We have 50 states fully equipped to manage it locally "on our behalf".</em> I still have this weird feeling that something big technologically is going to happen which is going to render domain names moot and completely gut the domain market. i wish i knew what it was, so that i could invent it……

@jaeweb: Not sure I agree with you, as I tend to think it is too easy to put off the hard work of today by simply saying it’s likely to be all changed come tomorrow. However, I do believe in the power of politics. I have always assumed that local politics will eventually bend the web to the breaking point. The thinkers in the domain world should probably look very closely at the .ASIA endeavor. A private group creating a top level domain branded globally like that, with all registrations thrown to competitive auction, certainly changes the face of domain name opportunity on the Internet. Ownership of natural resources have long suffered local political efforts like nationalization. Why not TLDs? Who is stopping a government like China (or even the US, under the guise of National Security/Homeland Security or “resolve”) from mandating a TLD much like they mandate taxes or other corporate governance? We have 50 states fully equipped to manage it locally “on our behalf”.

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