<?xml version="1.0" encoding="UTF-8"?><!-- generator="wordpress/2.0.7" -->
<rss version="2.0" 
	xmlns:content="http://purl.org/rss/1.0/modules/content/">
<channel>
	<title>Comments on: Overpaying for the Privilege of Handing Over the Keys to the Kingdom</title>
	<link>http://www.johnon.com/592/marchex-dental-issaquah.html</link>
	<description>I think there's an opinion on that subject lying around here somewhere....</description>
	<pubDate>Thu, 09 Feb 2012 02:59:14 +0000</pubDate>
	<generator>http://wordpress.org/?v=2.0.7</generator>

	<item>
		<title>by: Glenn Nicholas</title>
		<link>http://www.johnon.com/592/marchex-dental-issaquah.html#comment-128164</link>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 Aug 2008 20:15:15 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.johnon.com/592/marchex-dental-issaquah.html#comment-128164</guid>
					<description>Fortunately for dentists in issaquah, issaquahdentist.net (and dentistissaquah.net, and the same .orgs) are still available. Aren't these worth developing before issaquahdental.net?  In this case it seems Marchex has staked out a big fish position in the wrong pond. With such a large portfolio, easy to happen.

Until the valuable exact matches are all pegged out, there will still be a window of opportunity for local business.

&lt;strong&gt;@Glenn:&lt;/strong&gt; &lt;em&gt;No doubt there's opportunity, but the point is businesses aren't doing the work. They'd rather pay Marchex. &lt;strong&gt;IssaquahDentist4.me&lt;/strong&gt; and plenty of other attractive domains are available. Sometimes it looks like Marchex is a domain portfolio looking for a problem to solve....&lt;/em&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Fortunately for dentists in issaquah, issaquahdentist.net (and dentistissaquah.net, and the same .orgs) are still available. Aren&#8217;t these worth developing before issaquahdental.net?  In this case it seems Marchex has staked out a big fish position in the wrong pond. With such a large portfolio, easy to happen.</p>
<p>Until the valuable exact matches are all pegged out, there will still be a window of opportunity for local business.</p>
<p><strong>@Glenn:</strong> <em>No doubt there&#8217;s opportunity, but the point is businesses aren&#8217;t doing the work. They&#8217;d rather pay Marchex. <strong>IssaquahDentist4.me</strong> and plenty of other attractive domains are available. Sometimes it looks like Marchex is a domain portfolio looking for a problem to solve&#8230;.</em>
</p>
]]></content:encoded>
				</item>
	<item>
		<title>by: Visible Dentist</title>
		<link>http://www.johnon.com/592/marchex-dental-issaquah.html#comment-128118</link>
		<pubDate>Sun, 24 Aug 2008 02:13:59 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.johnon.com/592/marchex-dental-issaquah.html#comment-128118</guid>
					<description>Kick ass article and a lot of very good points. Too bad it's "wasted" on local search optimizers, such as myself. 

As our operations transition to local SEO exclusivly, I can resonate with everything you've said, and more.

With regard to local dentistry search in which our efforts are heavily invested, it must be understood that the average dentist hasn't a clue about SEO, or its ROI relative to initial patient value, or beyond.

When you attempt to explain, often the dentist's reaction yields to his failsafe ye old caveat emptor logic, that is, it's just too good to be true.

Regardless of proven results, years of experience and glowing testimonials, most dentists have a to-do list and happily mark off "Need website" along with the site's local positioning and give the task(s) to whichever company their colleague suggested.

So essentially we have the blind leading the blind. That's not strategy - it's more like sweeping dust under a rug just to get rid of it.


j o h n</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Kick ass article and a lot of very good points. Too bad it&#8217;s &#8220;wasted&#8221; on local search optimizers, such as myself. </p>
<p>As our operations transition to local SEO exclusivly, I can resonate with everything you&#8217;ve said, and more.</p>
<p>With regard to local dentistry search in which our efforts are heavily invested, it must be understood that the average dentist hasn&#8217;t a clue about SEO, or its ROI relative to initial patient value, or beyond.</p>
<p>When you attempt to explain, often the dentist&#8217;s reaction yields to his failsafe ye old caveat emptor logic, that is, it&#8217;s just too good to be true.</p>
<p>Regardless of proven results, years of experience and glowing testimonials, most dentists have a to-do list and happily mark off &#8220;Need website&#8221; along with the site&#8217;s local positioning and give the task(s) to whichever company their colleague suggested.</p>
<p>So essentially we have the blind leading the blind. That&#8217;s not strategy - it&#8217;s more like sweeping dust under a rug just to get rid of it.</p>
<p>j o h n
</p>
]]></content:encoded>
				</item>
	<item>
		<title>by: Gab Goldenberg</title>
		<link>http://www.johnon.com/592/marchex-dental-issaquah.html#comment-128085</link>
		<pubDate>Sun, 10 Aug 2008 20:39:41 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.johnon.com/592/marchex-dental-issaquah.html#comment-128085</guid>
					<description>I know that people search at the local level. My question is ... with limited volume per hyper-local term, and more and more businesses having footers like "serving montreal, dorval, laval, chomedey, the south shore, cote-st-luc, st-laurent" etc. (read: more competition for those terms), what value can local businesses with low-gross-margins derive from this? Sure a few several-hundred/thousand dollar lead for a surgeon makes it worthwhile in that market, but what about the local convenience store? How about the stationary store at the mall around the block? 

Personally, as an SEO who's done a fair bit of local, I'm skeptical of the value to these businesses. I've even turned down some of them whom I thought could not gain much from SEO, due to the low volumes etc.

Original content as usual John.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I know that people search at the local level. My question is &#8230; with limited volume per hyper-local term, and more and more businesses having footers like &#8220;serving montreal, dorval, laval, chomedey, the south shore, cote-st-luc, st-laurent&#8221; etc. (read: more competition for those terms), what value can local businesses with low-gross-margins derive from this? Sure a few several-hundred/thousand dollar lead for a surgeon makes it worthwhile in that market, but what about the local convenience store? How about the stationary store at the mall around the block? </p>
<p>Personally, as an SEO who&#8217;s done a fair bit of local, I&#8217;m skeptical of the value to these businesses. I&#8217;ve even turned down some of them whom I thought could not gain much from SEO, due to the low volumes etc.</p>
<p>Original content as usual John.
</p>
]]></content:encoded>
				</item>
	<item>
		<title>by: Tim Tevlin</title>
		<link>http://www.johnon.com/592/marchex-dental-issaquah.html#comment-128048</link>
		<pubDate>Sat, 02 Aug 2008 15:13:04 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.johnon.com/592/marchex-dental-issaquah.html#comment-128048</guid>
					<description>The most effective tactic a local business can take in order to gain organic links on Google in particular, assuming that the overwhelming majority of local searches occur via the main Google page and users type in a geographic qualifier in their search term (plumbers Pittsburgh), is to use the Video SEO tactic.  Meaning you do not even need a website to gain Page One visibility, but rather an online commercial that gets posted to video websites such as YouTube, gets indexed multiple times by Google, and thus generates multiple Page One links - leading ideally to off-line phone calls from active customer prospects above all.  Obscure hyper-local sites from companies such as Marchex don't appear very compelling to me, especially in light of the 'real world' in which Google proper, not Google Maps, is the foundation of the vast majority of local searches.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The most effective tactic a local business can take in order to gain organic links on Google in particular, assuming that the overwhelming majority of local searches occur via the main Google page and users type in a geographic qualifier in their search term (plumbers Pittsburgh), is to use the Video SEO tactic.  Meaning you do not even need a website to gain Page One visibility, but rather an online commercial that gets posted to video websites such as YouTube, gets indexed multiple times by Google, and thus generates multiple Page One links - leading ideally to off-line phone calls from active customer prospects above all.  Obscure hyper-local sites from companies such as Marchex don&#8217;t appear very compelling to me, especially in light of the &#8216;real world&#8217; in which Google proper, not Google Maps, is the foundation of the vast majority of local searches.
</p>
]]></content:encoded>
				</item>
	<item>
		<title>by: Cave Diving</title>
		<link>http://www.johnon.com/592/marchex-dental-issaquah.html#comment-128047</link>
		<pubDate>Sat, 02 Aug 2008 13:53:34 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.johnon.com/592/marchex-dental-issaquah.html#comment-128047</guid>
					<description>Thanks for the write up John.  It is very thought provoking and confirms some ideas we have here.  I made Allie and Solomon read it.

Hans</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for the write up John.  It is very thought provoking and confirms some ideas we have here.  I made Allie and Solomon read it.</p>
<p>Hans
</p>
]]></content:encoded>
				</item>
</channel>
</rss>

