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	<title>Comments on: Structured Data, Microformats, and SEO</title>
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	<description>I think there's an opinion on that subject lying around here somewhere....</description>
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		<title>by: Nebraska</title>
		<link>http://www.johnon.com/683/microformats-seo.html#comment-129016</link>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Jul 2009 02:30:36 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>I am thinking that Structured Data and Microformats have a snappy sound to them. Corporate types will love those phrases. It gives them something to hang their hat on. I have found that when I can describe processes in labeled chunks it is easier for management to follow and approve.

Identity is big, very big. I am always shocked by the refusal of most clients to pay much more than reg fee for a winning domain that almost locks up identity by itself. They drop $2000 for a 60 second video, throw it on YouTube and then are surprised when social media traffic doesn't rain down upon them. Meanwhile, ask someone to drop $3000 on a domain that will rocket to the top of Google and they just can't pull the trigger.</description>
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<p>Identity is big, very big. I am always shocked by the refusal of most clients to pay much more than reg fee for a winning domain that almost locks up identity by itself. They drop $2000 for a 60 second video, throw it on YouTube and then are surprised when social media traffic doesn&#8217;t rain down upon them. Meanwhile, ask someone to drop $3000 on a domain that will rocket to the top of Google and they just can&#8217;t pull the trigger.
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		<title>by: john andrews</title>
		<link>http://www.johnon.com/683/microformats-seo.html#comment-129014</link>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Jul 2009 20:12:38 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>@Nebraska I never did like the moniker "posh" because I find it a contradiction between self-deprecating ("plain old") and promotional ("posh"). Too odd to get traction, IMHO.

But I agree many of us have seen the value of structured markup for a long time. Cue the links to old "how to abuse abbrev tags for keyword stuffing" posts. But I see quite a gap between those who recommend good, valid structured HTML and those doing search optimizations, and the gap involves intent. I don't use the quote tag because I want my quotes to be found in search. Blame Google, but my article about Mimi's Garden will not (currently) be returned as a match by Google if that possessive apostrophe is "properly" marked up. Cue the link to my old "a simple Wordpress Plugin to turn off texturizer" post.

Identity is big right now... reviews are big...images, videos... the search engines are pushing their rules out to us and if webmasters are not aware of the potential downsides associated with strict adherence to these "good webmastering" guidelines, we'll be forced to choose between silent censorship and wholesale acceptance of our marginalization (thanks Todd!)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Nebraska I never did like the moniker &#8220;posh&#8221; because I find it a contradiction between self-deprecating (&#8221;plain old&#8221;) and promotional (&#8221;posh&#8221;). Too odd to get traction, IMHO.</p>
<p>But I agree many of us have seen the value of structured markup for a long time. Cue the links to old &#8220;how to abuse abbrev tags for keyword stuffing&#8221; posts. But I see quite a gap between those who recommend good, valid structured HTML and those doing search optimizations, and the gap involves intent. I don&#8217;t use the quote tag because I want my quotes to be found in search. Blame Google, but my article about Mimi&#8217;s Garden will not (currently) be returned as a match by Google if that possessive apostrophe is &#8220;properly&#8221; marked up. Cue the link to my old &#8220;a simple Wordpress Plugin to turn off texturizer&#8221; post.</p>
<p>Identity is big right now&#8230; reviews are big&#8230;images, videos&#8230; the search engines are pushing their rules out to us and if webmasters are not aware of the potential downsides associated with strict adherence to these &#8220;good webmastering&#8221; guidelines, we&#8217;ll be forced to choose between silent censorship and wholesale acceptance of our marginalization (thanks Todd!)
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		<title>by: yvonh</title>
		<link>http://www.johnon.com/683/microformats-seo.html#comment-129013</link>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Jul 2009 19:58:38 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>Is it useful to mention that microformat and structured can be gamed? The more sophisticated the engine become, the more room they leave you to spam.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Is it useful to mention that microformat and structured can be gamed? The more sophisticated the engine become, the more room they leave you to spam.
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		<title>by: Gab Goldenberg</title>
		<link>http://www.johnon.com/683/microformats-seo.html#comment-129012</link>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Jul 2009 19:02:30 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>Wow. Love it.</description>
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		<title>by: aaron wall</title>
		<link>http://www.johnon.com/683/microformats-seo.html#comment-129010</link>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Jul 2009 15:19:41 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>Great point John. The more you structure the more value you give away to the intermediary, which will display it all in their SERPs without giving you much value.

As search engines continue to consume the web I think that trend highlights the increasing importance of social networking &#38; branding &#38; building direct trust. If the only way a person adds value is through creating perceived value then they are still miles ahead of the person creating tons of value and giving it all away.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great point John. The more you structure the more value you give away to the intermediary, which will display it all in their SERPs without giving you much value.</p>
<p>As search engines continue to consume the web I think that trend highlights the increasing importance of social networking &amp; branding &amp; building direct trust. If the only way a person adds value is through creating perceived value then they are still miles ahead of the person creating tons of value and giving it all away.
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