Comments on: Google Owns Your Internets http://www.johnon.com/696/googlestorm.html I think there's an opinion on that subject lying around here somewhere.... Sat, 18 May 2013 20:46:12 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.0.7 by: Pete http://www.johnon.com/696/googlestorm.html#comment-129264 Sat, 12 Sep 2009 12:35:06 +0000 http://www.johnon.com/696/googlestorm.html#comment-129264 John, Just found your blog but will be following it from now on... Very useful article - should be discussing these questions. I run a web design outfit in the UK & over here we have a monopolies commission. I've never understood how they haven't investigated Google, a company that can be easily demonstrated has penalized websites for selling links unless it's through Google, if that's not against consumer interest what is? On the positive note of tackling the problem - it seems the real need is to re-invent search engines. In a sense SEO is the nemesis here as no search provider is ever going to want to be manipulated yet there needs to be a consensus somehow on the best result to display. Perhaps then the question is how should we display results? Quick & Simple Example: From a retail point of view wouldn't it be better to display just images from e-commerce sites so searchers are presented with pages of images they can flick through to find something they "like" first then visit the site? We've just been to my nieces wedding so somebody shopping for wedding invitations wouldn't they rather use a search engine like an organized catalogue. Isn't that what everybody's wife enjoys anyhow, window shopping? It would then be in everybody's interest to randomize those images to give constantly fresh results wouldn't it? But then at the moment as you've all said here - it's only about the interest of a few. Of course that's just retail, what about if somebody is researching cancer? In like manner a quick precis form of result works but on the face of it seems close to what Google has in mind. Whatever the "new web" is going to look like I think as regrettable as it may be some government intervention will be necessary in each nation. If I've learnt one thing it's this - the biggest commodity in life is people i.e. a great many have a price & are for sale. That lamentable condition is the downfall of the majority of human enterprise no matter how noble its roots. John,

Just found your blog but will be following it from now on… Very useful article - should be discussing these questions.

I run a web design outfit in the UK & over here we have a monopolies commission. I’ve never understood how they haven’t investigated Google, a company that can be easily demonstrated has penalized websites for selling links unless it’s through Google, if that’s not against consumer interest what is?

On the positive note of tackling the problem - it seems the real need is to re-invent search engines. In a sense SEO is the nemesis here as no search provider is ever going to want to be manipulated yet there needs to be a consensus somehow on the best result to display. Perhaps then the question is how should we display results?

Quick & Simple Example:
From a retail point of view wouldn’t it be better to display just images from e-commerce sites so searchers are presented with pages of images they can flick through to find something they “like” first then visit the site?

We’ve just been to my nieces wedding so somebody shopping for wedding invitations wouldn’t they rather use a search engine like an organized catalogue. Isn’t that what everybody’s wife enjoys anyhow, window shopping? It would then be in everybody’s interest to randomize those images to give constantly fresh results wouldn’t it? But then at the moment as you’ve all said here - it’s only about the interest of a few.

Of course that’s just retail, what about if somebody is researching cancer? In like manner a quick precis form of result works but on the face of it seems close to what Google has in mind. Whatever the “new web” is going to look like I think as regrettable as it may be some government intervention will be necessary in each nation. If I’ve learnt one thing it’s this - the biggest commodity in life is people i.e. a great many have a price & are for sale. That lamentable condition is the downfall of the majority of human enterprise no matter how noble its roots.

]]> by: online marketing advisors http://www.johnon.com/696/googlestorm.html#comment-129257 Thu, 10 Sep 2009 23:55:18 +0000 http://www.johnon.com/696/googlestorm.html#comment-129257 Hi John, nice article. I must admit that this scares the hell out of me, although I don't think that google will ever succeed at making this a reality, the simple fact that this is what they have in mind is just crazy. I really don't see how this plan would be helpful to anyone. Sounds to me like google wants to take away the people's right chose for themselves when it comes to searching. Bad idea, and will most likely be google's down fall if they in fact do put this into play. Hi John, nice article. I must admit that this scares the hell out of me, although I don’t think that google will ever succeed at making this a reality, the simple fact that this is what they have in mind is just crazy. I really don’t see how this plan would be helpful to anyone. Sounds to me like google wants to take away the people’s right chose for themselves when it comes to searching. Bad idea, and will most likely be google’s down fall if they in fact do put this into play.

]]> by: Noah http://www.johnon.com/696/googlestorm.html#comment-129256 Thu, 10 Sep 2009 20:18:23 +0000 http://www.johnon.com/696/googlestorm.html#comment-129256 Scary post...wouldn't surprise me that people would accept this type of thing based on how much people are already willing to accept from Google. Even so, it seems like essentially cutting webmasters out of the equation entirely would be something that people would eventually rebel against. Perhaps they'd rebel to the point of many, many people no longer allowing Google to even access their sites, and their results would become worse, not better. Then everyone will just move on to Bing, or whatever the latest fad search engine is for their needs... Scary post…wouldn’t surprise me that people would accept this type of thing based on how much people are already willing to accept from Google. Even so, it seems like essentially cutting webmasters out of the equation entirely would be something that people would eventually rebel against. Perhaps they’d rebel to the point of many, many people no longer allowing Google to even access their sites, and their results would become worse, not better. Then everyone will just move on to Bing, or whatever the latest fad search engine is for their needs…

]]> by: Ryan http://www.johnon.com/696/googlestorm.html#comment-129251 Wed, 09 Sep 2009 23:31:00 +0000 http://www.johnon.com/696/googlestorm.html#comment-129251 I noticed Google Health scraped the National Institute of Health's content for all medical conditions and is serving it up #1 for every keyword. Try searching "hemorrhoids". Not only do they give you the Google Health copy, but they also provide the original in the definition link. Not sure how that serves the end user. I noticed Google Health scraped the National Institute of Health’s content for all medical conditions and is serving it up #1 for every keyword. Try searching “hemorrhoids”. Not only do they give you the Google Health copy, but they also provide the original in the definition link. Not sure how that serves the end user.

]]> by: factpile http://www.johnon.com/696/googlestorm.html#comment-129241 Tue, 08 Sep 2009 13:56:45 +0000 http://www.johnon.com/696/googlestorm.html#comment-129241 As a quasi-publisher of content, I can see both sides. I hate the fact that Google takes my content and makes it easily available for others to use. On the other hand, I do get about 20% of all site traffic from google images. But, at the end of the day, I chose to sell links on the site, and Google rewarded me with a PR of 0, despite the original content and daily visitors I have coming. F Google. As a quasi-publisher of content, I can see both sides. I hate the fact that Google takes my content and makes it easily available for others to use. On the other hand, I do get about 20% of all site traffic from google images.

But, at the end of the day, I chose to sell links on the site, and Google rewarded me with a PR of 0, despite the original content and daily visitors I have coming.

F Google.

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